So I’m pretty much done with the next step of the Main Story Quest now, which is the end of The Siege of Khor’minos and the penultimate dungeon of the campaign. Just a couple bad-ends and the post-quest world changes need to be poked at now.
With that on the imminent horizon (and figuring a lot of people are going to be starting new saves around the time it drops), the team’s decided to go back and revise what to us has been a bit of a bugbear for a while now: the Hornet Hive, Alraune, and Azzy’s recruitment. There’s been a lot of community feedback over these events over the years that basically breaks down into the following issues: people don’t like the binary choice between killing or enthralling the Alraune; the Hornet Hive’s “corruption path” is basically a dead end; Azzy’s recruitment is so obtuse that there’s a pretty constant thread of people going “wait you can recruit her??” and I can’t really blame them.
So, here’s what we’re doing:
- Azzy has a new introductory event that now replaces the mandatory Alraune Effigy encounter in the garden. The point of THAT encounter was always just to make sure you saw Effigies at least once before you saw their mom; now the burden of that has been moved into Azzy’s intro.
- The progression to unlocking Azzy’s quest has been completely reworked: you just need to spar her, and she makes that abundantly clear in her dialogue. You no longer need to have cleared the Alraune’s Garden to being the quest, either.
- The Hornet Hive Dungeon has had its level scale adjusted to be at least reasonably possible pre-Alraune Garden. Most enemies within have received a 1-2 level nerf.
- The internal progression of the Hornet Hive dungeon has been reworked to no longer require you leave the hive to go purify the core: Liaden can now do the whole thing at once.
- Pursuant to this, there is no longer an option to kick Liaden into the hornet honey pool. That dead end has been pruned. Instead, there is now an option to send Liaden to a nearby town (which removes her from the game). If you have a save wherein you kicka da paladin, you’ll be prompted to choose between the two options on load.
- Azzy’s actual recruitment text has been cleaned up; the Champion is no longer quite so hypersexual about things if you haven’t already laid Azzy by then! Platonic knight-friend is valid.
- There are new resolution options for the Alraune (note that killing or bedding her yourself is still totally on the table): if you have purified the Hornet Hive before tackling the Alraune’s Garden (which is an option now!), you can tag the hornets in to help contain the problem without killing or bedding the plant-milf.
- … Alternatively if you have finished helping Ahmri’s centaurs, you can tag in the Behemoth to plow the Alraune into submission.
I think that about sums it up.
Like I said I’m dotting my Ts and crossing my Is on the next MSQ dungeon, which is a big chunky boi. (If you’re on our Discord you’ve probably seen me pulling my hair out and cursing Past Savin for how many threads are active throughout Act 2 that all need accounting for or resolution! There’s over 100 pages of post-end-boss narrative alone D:) It’ll probably be a bit between me sliding the finished product into Drake’s DMs and it releasing, because there’s, well, a lot of dungeon to code, including a whole new minigame! Please be patient just a little longer <3
0.8.13 Patch Notes:
- Hive Quest Rework (see above) 🙂
- Hretha has a new threesome option with Ylvid, which splits into a pair of sub-scenes. May result in pregnant orcs, conditions permitting.
- New CGs: Winter City Bad End (CutiChan), Hana/Rindo Blowjob Redo (Onigiri), Hana Doggystyle (Akira)
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Dear CoC 2 devs,
Still waiting for more customisation options such as haircuts and TFs stuck in your trello limbo.
We actually push them to the bottom of the queue every time you ask about it 🙂
I had no doubts on that either, but at very least you’ve being honest here.
Wait there’s a trello?
Yeah it’s what we use to internally track and organize things. it is NOT available to the public.
Savin and co are we deadass?
so you can’t turn Liaden into a bimbo anymore?
Correct.
while I get the reasoning behind the choice, it is sad seeing one of the seemingly few times the Champ causes corruption to another character get removed from the game.
But hey, hopefully the Olivia’s correction content will sratch a similiar itch
Ditto, it’s CORRUPTION of Champions after all, though I wouldn’t be surprised if this was from Patreon or even the recent credit card BS
iirc its because none of the writers actually want to write for bimbo liaden so her content is more or less non existent
I feel that is true for more than just bimbo Liaden, seems corruption over all is lacking.
To be honest, I kinda of feel at this point the title is doing more harm than good since it doesn’t feel like a corruption game.
I am sure Savin and Team have something up their sleeves for future updates that we’ll be surprised on later down the line
if no one wanted to write it, i wouldnt blame them necessarily- its just one of the things that come with these types of games. You can write nearly all manner of things to the player, since they are still choosing , and therefore consenting, to these things. But with things like corrupting others, I can see how it can stir up some discomfort with entirely removing the mind and bodily autonomy of another being in an explicitly evil way. Especially if the victim is an innocent and good person like Laiden. I can see why a lot of similar content would be ignored or shafted. Maybe with this in mind a shift might occur in the future where the PC actually cant add to the corruption directly at all.
so, is it still the case that you have to choose between Azzy as companion and keeping the corrupt hornets?
Is there still a possibility to Bimbofy Azzy some other way, or will that be a casualty of the pruning?
It should still be with one of her sets
Her bimbo set still exists!
Unless I’m missing something or this is just a precursor to more Hive content this feels like such a peculiar choice. I don’t think anyone ever kicked in Liaden to just get rid of her, but to keep corrupt hornets. I figured most people’s qualm was that you couldn’t corrupt the Hive and recruit Azzy. This update effectively just gets rid of the entire corrupt route, both how you get to the hive and its resolution.
About 90% of the people I talked to said specifically they did it just to get rid of Liaden lol.
But yes, it cuts a corrupt route that basically didn’t go anywhere and never was going to. I’ve spent years getting feedback that it wasn’t worth ever doing that route because you lost out on too much.
So, removing Liaden, does that mean you cannot purify the Hive if you do this route or can you bring it to her Father still?
Or the Hive just stays corrupted because this choice and you can’t get Azzy either? I am assuming the effect is the same and you lose Azzy as a companion… but if you can get Azzy still as a companion, it removes having to share her, but you basically lose out on a few quests and items since they rely on Liaden.
You can still purify the hive and get Companion Azzy.
Second bullet point: Spar with* or Spare her? (if sparing, which her: Azzy or Alraune? I’m assuming Azzy)
so no more bimboness? thats a shame 🙁
What about the sex scenes after kicking them in? Forever unaccessible now( unless you download a previous version)?
Bit sad I’m not gonna lie, that corruption path was the only one where male PCs could sex Liaden and now it’s being removed outright. Now the only corruption path that felt worth it/impactful to a faction is being pruned. Something something one less Champion is getting Corrupted.
Also I’m assuming this new purified hornet resolution for the Alraune won’t control the situation to the point a certain elf doesn’t get corrupted if we send her to the wayfort instead of town going forward.
Bimbo Liaden just outright removed?
if we’re on the getting rid of dead end content arc, can you cut quinn next lol
Just wanna put in a bit of support, I appreciate the addition of a more platonic recruitment of Azzy. I like her fine, but I was always a little annoyed by how the game assumes you two were in bed with each other even if you’ve never pursued it. I usually skipped her, since recruiting her was kind of a pain if you didn’t want to bone. Then during the Liaden confession scene, Azzy was acting as though we were a couple and I don’t think I ever did anything with her. If I could I would just let the two be girlfriends and stay completely out of their hair.
So thanks for adding some more less hypersexual content, weird as that sounds for a porn game. I’ll probably recruit Azzy in more playthroughs now. I would usually only grab her when i wanna do a Teatime for dragons before.
what, why did you remove bimbo liaden?
so… what will happen to Liaden bimbo bust from that ending…?
i dunno, it could be used for a temporary transformation on a sex scene with azyran atleast 👉👈
I have to admit I’m pretty disappointed by these changes. One of the things I enjoy most in a roleplaying game is having a wide range of options — even if some of them are weird, niche, or lead to “dead ends.” That’s what makes my choices feel meaningful and my character feel unique.
Removing paths like the corruption route or cutting options (even ones with bad outcomes) makes the game feel more railroaded. I understand the goal is to make things flow better, but I’d rather see those paths expanded or given more depth instead of just being removed. Part of the charm of CoC2 was that it let players make questionable or dark choices and live with them.
I hope future updates keep the focus on player agency and don’t flatten things into one “correct” or “safe” route. Having messy, imperfect choices is what makes a roleplaying game feel much better.
Is there gonna be consequences for making sub-optimal choices during the preceedjng quests(Failing the harbour/not touching machine?)? i know that i peesonally did not willingly suspect someone that everyone is suspecting. would be neat to have a unique scene or bad end for that
Damn I actually just wanted the corrupted hornets for a “basically a demon” run. I didnt even really have a problem with laiden and even thought her little thing with azzy was cute. Now i just…HAVE to purify the hive? I just hope I dont “have to” to continue the story
It’ll probably be mandatory for the wayfort upgrades because of the “clear the hive” requirement.
I was curious…
I saw the busts gallery. I saw Gytha new busts.
Hehe, what a treat.