Edit: There’s a hotfix out to handle a page worth of bug reports, including some crashes and softlocks. Thanks for reporting issues! Said fix also reduces the number of steps before you fail-forward in the dungeon for those of you having some trouble navigating it.
Alright, so that took a lot longer to code than we may have expected, but there’s a really tremendous amount of content packed into this patch — 120+ pages of smut alone, nevermind all the plot and dungeon.
So, this patch includes a new dungeon for Berwyn which neatly ties off his arc and brings him more or less to a feature complete state with not just a lot of new content, but a lot of changes to him.
You’ve probably already noticed that while Berwyn always had a dearth of content outside himself compared to most of the cast, your dogboy companion has gotten little to no new support in quests and events over the last year. Berwyn’s original writer left the community some time ago, and I brought B! onboard to finish his character arc off with the aplomb only a writer of his caliber can. However, I made the decision that it would be unfair to burden another writer with an extra companion. Rather, we’ll be transitioning him into a normal NPC.
Asking B! to wrap up another writer’s biggest project is enough of a herculean task on its own — one which he stepped up to admirably, as you’ll soon see — but the decision to cut Berwyn’s Companion content was mine, and made from the beginning. As of this patch, Berwyn is no longer a companion. He is still around, and almost all of his old content is still accessible since he rarely interacted with things to begin with; you just can’t add him to your party anymore. This applies from the moment you beat Matiha in his first quest onwards.
The good news is, without having to worry about supporting him constantly on your adventures, this has given us the opportunity to really give Berwyn some incredible mutability; the kind that would be impossible to support long-term the way we do with Companion characters — Etheryn herself already stresses what we can and should do with a character you can bring with you. The art that comes with this post should give a clue as to what you can do with him (or not, if you like Berry just the way he is).
I know Berry has his fans, so for those of you who like the boi, I hope the quest and all the content it brings is a fitting consolation to not being able to bring him along on your adventures. There really is a ton of it. And for those of you not into big-dick femboys, the ending of this quest might just give you something to enjoy about Wynne too!
0.5.7 Patch Notes:
- Berwyn can no longer be recruited into the party, though he’s not gone — he’ll be found in the Guests tab at the inn after you help him against Matiha the first time.
- A week after completing the Winter City dungeon and Berry’s first quest, a mysterious ‘mander mage will approach you in the inn. Help her find Berwyn, and she’ll help you both find Matiha.
- If you accept the ‘mander’s quest, you’ll be taken to a very unique dungeon that’s going to play some mind games with you! Read carefully…
- When it’s all said and done, there are a frankly stupendous number of choices you’ll be making which substantially change a pair of characters’ content. Said characters also have a lot of new sex content — over 100 pages of just pure cheek clappin’, all courtesy of B!
- Matiha has a scene with the Behemoth (by Tobs), too.
- Berwyn has a whole assload of new busts by DCL (with edits from Moira). Matiha has new busts by Moira. The ‘manders on the quest have busts by AnonArts.
- Drifa also has busts now! (By Moira)
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It’s been 15 months since I started working on BerryQuest 2. Let me know what you think!
Sure thing
Fantastic content as always B! I think this is an awesome final send-off for a companion. Cant wait for more of your stuff.
Was great! Enjoyed the dungeon, but was unclear what the clue was supposed to be beyond the first bit. Would be cool to get some insight on the train of thought on what connected the rooms together
I just mapped the whole thing…
Past the first bit I did end up brute forcing. I’m sure there was some logic to it but wasn’t sure of it past a certain point
It was really good loved all the interactions, the dungeon was far to confusing for my tiny brain which devs accounted for.
It’s a real shame losing Berwyn’s reactions to on going story content but if this is the way it has to be it’s a damn fine send off.
Just keep an eye on the last paragraph. It’ll make sense real quick because it just sends you back to the beginning if you make a couple wrong turns. So you’ll see “South is a trap door, east is a stairwell” and over and over and go from there. And if you end up back in that room you’ll know your back at the start of the maze. You only need to go through about 5-6 rooms to reach the boss lady so it’s not that hard to rote memorize your path, since many dead end you back to the start after just 2-3 turns.
`There’s a door to your east, with a spiral staircase leading upward just beyond its arches, with green veins pumping along the central pillar. To the south is a dark hallway, lit slightly by the ambient light of the glowing veins, but not well enough that you can see where it leads.`
That basically marks a map refresh, you hit a dead end and got teleported back here. You know the path you took is a dead end if you end up here again.
Not happy with an already short list of male companions being taken away as a companion.
That being said, I thought the quest was very well done. Nice work. I can tell a lot of time and effort went into it.
If Berwyn had to go, then this was a good way to finish his companion story.
The King is Gone. Long Remain the New King B!
Seriously, Berwyn/Wynne is just become my new favorite.
I like the Titanic Hat, as a mage it’s far more valuable to me than Berwyn. Is that the only possible reward, or are there others?
Good shit, bro.
It’s some good stuff, and I’ve just been running through the quest to see the berry variations, but at the same time it feels unfinished if that makes any sense? Probably because you had to pull all the new companion related interactions since he’s no longer a companion, which is kinda unfortunate. A fan of the berry/matiha threesome, just wish you still had access to berry’s pre-quest sex scenes still.
It’s really fun
https://youtu.be/qJMNnxrvGqs (0:00-0:10) im just really sad i lost one of my favorite companions
oh wait i wanted to make a normal coment
Sad to hear we’re losing a long-established companion but I’m nevertheless excited to see Berry’s concluding questline.
Disappointed by the loss of Berry as a companion, but it is understandable. Inconsolable about the loss of his pubes in the new art, but de-hypering him would have been too powerful without a new sexual debuff, I guess.
Gonna have to check out the Matiha stuff; sounds interesting.
Please let Berwyn teach us some of the classless magic, it is painful to use mirror stance as a mage.
I’m not too proud to beg.
Can’t find the tower
You mean after completing the quest? It is accessible from camps. We are considering making it accessible from the Ways Between fast travel points as well.
Wait, really? Berry isn’t going to be our companion. That sucks😓.
a little confused why the code for his character’s attacks are cut…very sad about it actually.
Well, alright, good luck with the writing and such, rip mage party.
God damn. It feels like I made a wish on the monkey paw too hard. This hurts but screw it, I’m gonna try out the new berwyn content till I can’t feel my third leg anymore.
Soooo, just to see if i understand it clearly: Berwyn is gonna be still getting some new content in the future, but, as a NPC from now onward instead of a companion (or B! just steped up for this content only and Berwyn is “finished” going foward)?
Also, is the interactions with him in the Winter City ball part of the “old content” that’s still in the game or not?
Whatever the awnsers end up being i’m happy to see him getting more content even if that means he’s not a part of the party anymore since one of my favorite things about this game is seeing the characters develop and get fleshed out with every new patch, congratulations with finishing what i’m sure was A LOT of work and looking foward to whatever comes in the future.
Damn, no more Berry companion? I guess it makes sense because his writer left, but it’s still sad to see. Ah well, at least this should prevent parser soup errors like with Brint/Brienne.
Yea but ion my opinion there was no need to drastically change him so much, I had a feeling this was gonna happen, one of my favorite characters gone, why change him so much and not just add content to him?
So now we have one less male companion… Great…
Wait a minutes… So now he’s no longer a companion but now he has breast?! What happened?!
Read the announcement. You can make choices that affect if he stays male or changes to something else.
I’m still annoyed about losing a male companion… We had 3 males companions out of 10 and now there’s only 2 left… Berwyn was one of my party member…
I agree. We barely have any male companions as it is and now we lose one of them. So disappointing.
One of my favorite characters
While it is a loss of a companion. I will definitely support this descision. I must admit that I never could make Berry any good compared to everyone else. Even if I maxed him out.
Still, its a good conclusion and looking forward to any future content with the boi regardless as an NPC
where can i find Drifa?
or is she a part of a questline?
I ran into her at the frost hound. After the quest was added I found her waiting outside the tavern on the tile with the waystone.
Honestly
I’m probably one of the few here who weren’t particularly attached to Berry.
Not to say I didn’t like him, but with my champion being a mage already, Berry was of little use as companion, as for interactions, well, he hardly had any value in practically quest.
And on a personal level, I neither like or dislike him, so this patch will probably not affect me one bit.
Though one odd part is, Berry can share the bed with PC, can Inn guests share beds? Or is he gonna be the first in line for such privilege?
Welp, guess I’ll have to play the new update to find out.
Anyhow, truly, thanks for the hard work on this patch!
Daliza was actually the first non-companion to have sleep-with content. Hers is only in the wayfort, so Berwyn is now the first non-companion to have sleep-with content in the frosthound.
Can we expect any more Companions to be cut from the game?
I mean, Berwyn’s case is sorth of a particular one because his original writer had left the project a while ago and this was done in order to be able to “scrap” something together out of what they left in the game.
I don’t see why any other companions would be removed in the future unless something similar ends up happening.
I mean, they did a great job, the ending is pretty good.
Yea, but why could they continue his story without removing him as a companion?
Cause B has his own companion to write for. Each companion requires updating with each new story event and major sidequests. The original writer for Berwyn left so this is a good ending all things considered.
The only femboy companion getting replaced by another girl really stings more than Berwyn specifically getting removed. :\
whoops meant for this to be a base level reply but it went here for some reason.
Where’s the tower? It’s not in the Ways Between.
It is accessible from camp.
Will there be anymore content for Evelyn in the future?
Yes.
Nice
Absolutely.
Good to hear she’s by far my favorite character
if someone were to pick up the mantle of B and write a new character, what requirements do your team require from them? what is their limit? can they write Berzerk levels of gore? are certain topics like cannibalism out of the question?
Check out the forums for a writer’s guide.
There are a lot of limitations, yes. We do not accept guro or vore or bodily waste content, among other blacklists.
I’m not seeing “an assload” of new scenes with Berwyn.
If anything, after his quest he seems to have even less scenes than he had before.
It’s really disappointing to lose one of the only male companions we have. Especially if tying off his arc means he wont be getting anymore new content. I wish a different course was taken.
how do you trigger the scene with matiha & the behemoth?
You have to have fucked the behemoth at the wayfort, and have sent Matiha to the wayfort.
I see people saying they can find the tower from camp… I can’t seem to find it. I got the quest and I’m eager to start, can someone please explain how to find the tower so I can get started???? I’ve made a camp, no tower. I’ve gone through the Ways, no tower.
You have to go to the ways between gate at Hawthorne and talk to Astraea
thanks
I don’t know about others, but to me the arts seem to keep getting better and better in the last few updates. I absolutely love Berwyn’s new arts. I liked the old, simplistic ones too, but the new ones just seem more…dynamic? Alive? I don’t know what’s the appropriate words.
This is honestly one of the weaker pieces by DCL, less thicc and something about it seems….off about this art.
Not like theres ever a lack of thicc in the art contained in Fenoxos games, so…
Not the point
Managed to fiddle around and brute force the quest, but I couldn’t make heads nor tails of it and I’m worried about what I missed. Might wait for the wiki to update with useful information before making a save for afterwards.
Wait, what?
B has another companion? How did I not notice that? Who is it?
Agnimitra!
Matiha (at least if you talk to her at the end) can lock you in a scene if you fuck her and not have a dick, since her only sex option requires a dick.
So there’s Behemoth if you send Matiha to Wayfort, are there other sex scenes exclusive to your choices during the quest?
It’s a shame. Berwyn was such a great companion through and through. Well… all I can do now is to hope that Berwyn will be restored to be our companion again in the oh so far future.
(and while I know that hope is the first step on the road to disappointment, I’ll still hope)
Indeed, I actually liked Berwyn as well.
I feel like that would be a pretty cool thing. Once the game reaches its end point, Berwyn joins you for the last big hurrah as an old time companion, who, at one point hung up his mage outfit and retired.
Great content, Wynne is great. Don’t have a clue why people are complaining over losing one of the more useless companions, it’s not like the half Lupine has disappeared from the game. I absolutely love Matiha, she’s Brilliant.
Because the amount of male companions just dropped from 3 to 2…
So? Two of the males are useless and Brint turns to Brienne in all my playthroughs.
God forbid other players are into males and aren’t happy about it.
Emily, not everyone here is a lesbian or a straight man…
Really struggling to navigate through the tower. Is there a key to it?
Never was a huge fan of femboy Berwyn and his attitude, so fully feminizing her will be a treat.
Will we get a new companion since there is now one less companion option with Berwyn gone?
Personally, don’t think its necessary, as it feels there are too many options already. Would love it if you could bring one or two of your companions along as support roles, that don’t show up in combat, maybe give a little passive buff, but mainly for allowing them to participate in events and dialogue.
Viviane the witch in the woods is supposedly gonna be a companion
Is there a way to fuck Astraea?
Not YET but I am going to try my hardest to get B! to support her in Tychris Palace when we get there.
Damn, I saw her nude bust and got my hopes up. Appreciate the answer though and can’t wait for it.
After the quest, Berwyn’s guest tab disappears completely. It’s there before the quest but gone afterwards, no matter how the quests plays out. Matiha shows up wherever you send her but Berwyn is just gone.
I don’t know what I had to do, specifically, to fuck up my game this bad but I would probably say it’s something I did, as opposed to a bug. This is extra weird since I can find Berwyn/Wynne in the Bedmates tab but Guests is blank.
You probably skipped reading the end of the quest:
You got an item that can summon him and his tower into any camp you make 🙂
yay no that doesn’t work I did the quest got no item can you be more specific. On what the item is called.
If I remember right the game mentions the you accidently take the waystone charm from one of the ‘manders. It doesn’t (as far as I’ve seen) even show up under ‘Key Items’. For me the fortress after the quest just shows up in the camp. I don’t know if it shows up immediately or if you’ll have to wait some time for the fortress to appear, but I think it shows up right away. When selecting “Enter Camp” the top row selections are , , Eubicha, Fortress, Masturbate.
I love me some Berwyn, especially his huge donger. Sad to see we can’t bring him on combat anymore. Hope for even more Berry in the future.
This is an absolute travesty. I was a devoted Berwyn Simp, and they were my favorite character.
Now according to the OG Writer, he was banned? And now you’re mutalating this Character that I literally would Speedrun to Badend myself against? What the absolute hell? I’ve played CoC2 for years, and I liked The Resolve rework into health.
But getting rid of a companion for that reason? Fucking sucks.
He wasn’t banned, he left- I believe it was due to not having total freedom to do absolutely anything he wanted to but I may be wrong on that part
Looked him up and his tweets he said it wasn’t voluntary and if he was on a power trip I would like to see evidence of that. That said I was also a Berwyn simp, definitely my fav character love the contrast of an aggressively cute/beautiful character. They got a tan, white hair, and doggo features.
Always rushed to bad end with them, and did it somewhat recently, it’s an absolute travesty that things worked out this way for my boy.
TL:TR:
Good way to go for Berwyn (RIP) (in other words: good riddance), as he was completely useless and male companion, I like to go with the fully female ones (Rin is banned, Kas also, I hate futas and should be gone to NPCs seriously). The only exception is Brint/Brienne, as I like both versions of this character (cause they are written so good)… This is my opinion on the topic. BTW, after I played COC Xianxia, I got in love with that COC version as it becoming the COC as it should be (TF fetish for me and those pictures of your transformed char are making my day). It’s now much better then COC2 + COC1 (original). It doesn’t mean that Savin and the team are doing job bad, but for me the game development is going in the wrong way which made me to search for alternatives. Some new things are still good to enjoy (which is why I bought the game on steam long time ago). I’m still looking forward for Vivian and B’s Genie follower (as for B work, it’s really good). And the top minus for this game is that there are no TF for no Bipedal chars (COC Xianxia is the top for that). TiTS is doing great also in that direction…
Update:
I’ve played through full quest with all variants and I’m totally fine with the results. Wynne is much better replacement then Berwen was, Wynne + Matiha threesome is must have. B did a great job there. I’d fun with the tower, I even managed by intuition get to Matiha bodyguard from the first try, but then decided that I ant to see all rooms/options, so I took that, then fight Matiha, that was fun, those were challenging battles…
Last update on the topic:
This Tower maze is really reminding me a Cube movies…
It seems some Evil has taken Residence in the tower.
What a mansion…!
So, after playing through the dungeon many times, I’m thinking the way to beat it is by triggering the ‘midpoint’ then continue to repeatedly go through the room (like, going through the same loop over and over), without triggering the ‘back to the first room’, and you will eventually get the message that you’ve beaten it.
On the quest itself; the talk with Matiha at the very end feels kind of magic theory-heavy, but the ‘atmosphere’ felt right and not anticlimactic. Feels sad seeing Berwyn gone from the roster, and feels kind of old too. Now I imagine me, old and wrinkly, sitting in front of fireplace, telling story to the new players about how, once upon a time, me and who they only know as an NPC in a two-part quest used to travel together, dethroning the Kervus Chieftain, fighting undersea abomination, and all that.
How much harder is it to write a companion compared to a regular ncp? It apparently took a great deal of effort for B to write Berry’s new content, which leaves me wondering how much more difficult writing a companion must be.
In most cases it’s more about commitment and breadth than difficulty: you need to be around to add content to quests and interactions all the time, and we expect a fairly regular drip of content for them and eventual quests or story progression.
Love the content the only problems i found are alot of the scenes both sex and non sex have it referring to Wynne as him and during her sex scenes if she has a dick it will use the small descriptions no matter the size you choose for her.
Please submit a bug report containing the bugged text on the forums.
I sadly have to second the complaints on removing Berry as companion. After all, the reason why he didn’t have much going for him was the original author disappearing, not Berry being bad. And with the ability to change him it would solve the problem of some people demanding another female companion, not like he’d be the first to go that path.
Berwyn wasn’t removed because people thought he was bad or wanted another female companion. He was removed because it wouldn’t be fair to saddle down one of the already established writers with the burden of maintaining somebody else’s companion, which is a multi-year commitment.
There was not actually any reason that another writer *had* to be saddled down with maintaining berwyn. They could keep him a companion and just not do any more updates. It’s not like it would be any different than it was using berwyn for the past year.
I mean you’re not strong armed into doing the quest if you want you can decide not to tell the lizard guy about berry and just keep him as is
You cannot. Stop talking bullshit. He isn’t a companion anymore regardless.
It is true, though; you can just refuse the quest. Or accept it and never do it.
I thought it was a lady?
They do be a lady my bad lol
I can’t figure the dungeon at all, it is EXTREMELY confusing.
You’re not alone. I’ve been at it for two hours, and I can’t get through it.
Ok, actually, there may not be a solution. You may just have to stupidly spam a crapload of movement until the game decides it has been enough? I do not understand anything at all. I fought someone, saw a lot of rooms, multiple times. I do not understand anything right now. I know I’m not a clever man, but I just feel defeated and alone. Which, after my childhood, I don’t like feeling when playing videogames.
I just held right until it stopped then went left. Warp dungeons always no matter the game.
I ignored the map and just read the text, you just travel to whatever exit you pick instantly. Some routes reset the tower so presumably were incorrect but directions are completely repeatable so you can retrace your steps. Its like an old text adventure.
This. Map is there to lead players astray and confuse them. Once player ignores the map and focuses entirely to the text describing doorways available to player, one quickly realizes its basically a pathway puzzle made of rooms and every wrong turn leads to a string of loops full of flavour text. I just used the pulsating plants to essentially establish one solid path until i was comfortable with what I was doing and mapped the rest out from that.
After finding the right path to the very end I just had to find out what kind of rooms the maze had in it. It was interesting. Definitely a fun and interesting patch.. but the “end result” portion of the patch seems to be bugged pretty hard right now and only whether you send her to wayfort or not has any relevancy.
I just want to point out, the next dungeon design for berry quest is bad on a game design level to do with accessibility. I have serious pattern recognition issues that I had to get actual therapy to get through in order to gain a better grasp on basic mathematics that involved pattern recognition. I had to get therapy to help me focus and understand how things worked with my ADD brain. Of course, mathematically, I adore the challenge because there is a solution that can be solved for within a defined set of mathematical rules which are explained to you through the years of schooling at lower and higher levels. Puzzle wise, well, lets *try* and keep things to no worse than the water temple, hmm? At this point, I’m about to start spamming a button and seeing if that gets me anywhere at all because I genuinely don’t understand the puzzle. Yes, I am an idiot. I know, trust me, I had teachers and professors call me an idiot.
Seriously, given all the time in the world, I can’t solve a rubix cube for the life of me. So having a rubix cube puzzle isn’t fun, it’s practically impossible for my smooth brain to understand, and with zero hints or explanations from ANYONE BEFORE OR DURING THE QUEST, yeah, I can’t do it.
You can in fact just spam the buttons; there is a fail-forward state after 100 movements regardless 🙂
Just hold D from the entrance for a few seconds.
I have found, I think, the correct path, but ultimately going forward, that will likely be what I do instead for my other, corrupted character. I’m sorry Savin, I really am, but these sorts of puzzles genuinely just annoy me. I love riddles quite a lot. Working out the solutions are always interesting, and can even tell someone about the creator’s ideals or state of mind if they made it up themselves. Other “puzzles” that rely on listening, well, reading, what each individual is and who they are and reasoning with them to bring a better conclusion forward is also rewarding. (TiTS comes to mind with capturing the escaped slave. Don’t sugarcoat it. Convict or not, it is what it is.) The satisfaction of having found everything you need to just talk with someone and point out either logical fallacies or point out their own hypocrisy that they had been blinded to brings a deep seated satisfaction to me. Y’know, “Remove the plank from your own eye before you remove the splinter from your friend’s.” sort of thing. Don’t remind me what this game could constitute with where that quote comes from in mind, trust me, I know where I’m going and how it might sound in context here.
Honestly, from my own, unique perspective, I’d like to just smack a wait button option and out patience her. I’ve got the pupper she wants to see, and so I don’t see a reason to perform tricks. I know what I have, and my brain comes to a different conclusion. I know I have to stop her, but I also know that I have a crack team of highly skilled individuals that I can keep healed so they can do the damage they need to do.
TL;DR: Basically, my brain works different than most. Some see a fun puzzle, I see an impossibility that needs to be navigated through other means, and get frustrated when I can’t. As fun as the writing was, the puzzle does still annoy me in having to deal with it in your way. Or more aptly, in a way that I don’t understand, even when reading every tidbit of information. Sorry if that angers you.
Just wait a day or two and check the forums if you get stuck on a puzzle in the future.
I know my comment might be a little out of place, but is someone going to take Berwyn’s skills, and put them on a new character, because his character had a lot of potential, even though most of the world found it unnecessary. ((classes that may have an advantage with Berwyn, warrior, Rogue,) but that’s my point of view )
There is a new Black Mage companion coming, our final one.
thank you for the information, but I still find it sad 😭 to lose him, because he was a companion, so helpful, and dedicated. (but thank you very much.) 😭
“Our final one” as in the last mage companion, or last companion overall? Not that I’m complaining either way, what we already have is amazing, it just always feels like there could be more in these kind of games.
Last Companion overall.
So the game’s total male companions equals two now? Any chance we will get a quest to genderbend one of the female or futa companions into a male?
No more adventures with smug brat? Sad day but you do your best with what you have and its not allways a popular choice.
Was Berry’s cock worship bad end removed? I can’t find it ‘w’
Looks like it’s removed post quest. Before the quest when he’s still at the Inn you can do so. Makes sense, since the ending involves him going into hiding and becoming a hedge mage and slowly building his craft in isolation. Since that wouldn’t make sense post quest now they would have to write a new bad end for it.
Honestly, It does feel like Berwyn fans are loosing more than they are gainging from what I have been going through. From 9 pretty great sex scenes that really gun for a niche of Josou Seme to just 4 and something scenes.
Also yeah, for female champions Matiha broke the code where she locks me in place if I do not have a dick. It does feel like game is spitting venom in my face for playing as female NPC these last couple of patches with how frequently lacking a dong locks you out of scenes or bugs out.
Will see how I feel later. For now, I am kind of sad since I can not experience any more Berry pregnancy and adventures.
Let’s hope they will address at least the Matiha thing, because it really does make one feel like you’re punished for not having a shlong.
sending mathilda to evergreen is bugged, the game assumes you sent her with berwynn.
I have to agree that it sucks hard to lose access to all of Berwyn’s previous scenes, and his companion status (speaking of, how’s Quin doing?). Some people get to feminize him further (complete lunatics) and Matiha suddenly wants to bend over for us, but is there a reason all of his unique scenes just get thrown out after this quest?
Yay, big titty witch sex, but I’d rather just not do the quest at all if doing it causes Berwyn to lose so much content.
Before this patch I didn’t care about Quin. Now I worry about him.
Considering Hugsalright, before he was removed from the team, had plans for a further Berwyn expansion – meeting his family and becoming a Magic Archer – having Berwyn be removed as a companion and being sidelined seems like a waste of potential.
If B has no further plans for Berry, would asking Hugs to come back to write for him be a possibility?
Considering that Hugs left in the most spectacularly toxic fashion possible, no.
Damn that sucks, sorry you guys had to deal with that (especially putting in the extra work to finish him up).
fugg
Really? Why change berrys gender and not be able to recruit him? Definitely not a fan of this change
Gender change is optional. You can choose vag or no, cock or no, female or male pronouns. You can keep him femboi lupine if you want. You can give him a more manageable dick if you want. You can give him tits and still addressed as a guy if you want.
I got through the whole quest, didnt have room in my inventory for the hat, made room for it and after confirming the game soft locked and now I gotta do it all again…
Most people will probably ignore this but this is for those questioning this change:
Hugs has mental health issues and left the community for long stretches of time over the years as a result. He even went so far as to stop using the forums because it was exacerbating his issues.
Hugs also knew that taking up a companion would be multi-year agreement to support said companion. This is the same agreement that every other writer has upheld since. If anything, Savin did him a favor by not just straight up telling him no to a companion despite his past behavior. The best part was when Hugs agreed to hand Berwyn over to B and then later did a 180 saying that his companion was stolen from him when he returned from his hiatus.
So instead of saddling B down with a second companion, something Savin is uniquely familiar with, the decision to remove Berwyn was made. If you’ve been around for awhile you will know how a lot of the writers feel about writing major pieces of content for abandoned characters and it borders on an exercise in futility.
I completely get feeling that this sucks. I personally was a fan of just about everything that Hugs has written, but this change needed to happen. There’s very few proven writers in the community these days and most of the established ones have their own companions or other commitments. These writers shouldn’t have to make their current projects suffer because Hugs didn’t use his time away from the community to better himself.
That all being said, I hope that Hugs gets the help that he needs and comes out a better person for it.
100% this.
I haven’t played CoC 2 as much as I had with TiTS but I personally loved having Berwyn as a companion, and yet I could feel as if there was little to no content for him in other quests, not even little remarks he would make during said quests. So when I read that Berwyn was going to be dropped from the companions entirely, I am – or was – miffed. But then I did some investigating and everything you said lines up. It’s sad we won’t get to have our femboy Pupper anymore, but since the author just decided not to interact with the team on a sour note, I recognize there is no reconciliation nor compromise. If they’re not willing.
I share the sentiment that Hugs would hopefully become better down the line, but until then there is no more Berwyn content if they’re not willing to cooperate. Intellectual property’s a bitch sometimes…
Completely understand about the Berwyn writer situation and it breaks my heart to know my favorite companion caused this much discrepancy, I just hope in the future maybe we will get more male companions or npcs like maybe the cursed lycan or a character like Chance/Mitch from TiTS I wish the best of luck and inspiration to all the writers going from here on out ❤
Removing Berwyn isn’t the problem for me. It’s that they’re removing one of THREE male companions, saddling us with only two, only to replace him with… Yet another hug titty gf. Bis like me don’t get much of a bone in this game as it is, so it’s upsetting that so much of the content goes to giant tits and such. Yeah, I like women, more than men, but I like options MORE. And no, I don’t like my options being largely “huge tits with optional cock” and “loli also with optional cock” and “oh also here’s some scraps that are male characters tho most males are gonna be sex-crazed encounters and barely a character to start with.”
There would be less complaints if we got another male character. But nooooooo
Berwyn’s no longer a companion? I’m done.
I will miss the bedtime knotting scenes for my female character playthrough. And I totally get that it does provide now only two male companions. Which for me as I’m not into shemales and herms does limit the companions I want to interact with a female character. However, this was a 15 month project of putting closure on a character that otherwise would have been forever in limbo and I can absolutely respect that.
I am curious Savin is the final compaion etc. meaning CoC2 is coming to a close in the not so far off future or simply so that all efforts can be focused on writing content and world story? Sending Mathilda to the wayfort as an option though gives me high hopes (Even if futile hopes) of similar things for the Bloodknight 🙂 and maybe Arissa.
Savin just wanted all of the companions established prior to the game’s second arc to avoid the complications of having to make retroactive changes all the way back to the beginning of the game. Also, I believe Savin has said that the second arc will be the longest with there being three arcs. So CoC2 probably won’t run as long as TiTS has, but still has at least a few years left.
This, pretty much. We don’t want to have to retroactively insert even more Companions into content; having the roster be solidified this late has already been a pain.
with Berwyn gone I can’t complete Father Where Art Thou his talk option is gone
Ah, that would be an issue to hotfix, yes.
thanks for your time
Made a huge ass post on Steam, but felt it’d be important to add it here as well, so enjoy the copypasta.
Or don’t, it’s kinda heavy.
“While I still enjoy the game, and am more than happy that it is still being worked on (Thank you for your hard work), it does make me anxious that the last two major updates have actively REMOVED content. I disagreed that the Resolve system needed to be removed, I find most people are used to balancing two stat systems, usually health and mana, so this wasn’t a big deal imo. But I understand that some people might have a hard time wrapping their head around it, and that it could hinder certain play styles as well. So I didn’t say anything.
This time, I can’t help but feel that the reasoning could be less technical, and more personal. Berwyn being playable doesn’t add or detract from the gameplay, as he was far from overpowered. And with all his interactions being intact and unchanged, it makes little reason to remove him from a play style stance as well.
But removing him because his writer left? I, sadly, understand that.
I’m not exactly a big community member, I lurk at the best of times and that isn’t often. So I can’t say I know or understand the reasons why Berwyn’s og writer left, be they on good terms or not. And I can understand having a new writer take the reins can be a daunting task. But, you did that. You did the hard part. His story is, as you say, feature complete. So from an outsiders perspective it narrows down why you’d give him the cut.
Not to dictate the direction the game is being developed, but when a game has been out for a long period of time, I feel it’s very important to tend to the needs of the existing players. Removing content, especially of a beloved character, as this thread reflects, doesn’t make anyone happy.
Thanks for coming to my *ED talk.”
It definitely sucks losing a male companion. I would honestly have much rather have him stay as a companion and simply not get any new content than have his existing companion content removed. I get why he’s being removed, but losing a male companion when we already have so few just kills my desire to keep playing this game.
This! It really sucks because Berwyn was my favourite character as well. Plus frankly it feels like there’s even less Berwyn content overall post-quest, which is in total contrast to what the post says.
Sure, I understand the whole behind the scenes things that led to this, and I do want to say this is a fitting send-off of sorts to Berwyn as a companion… except that just keeping him as a companion without much new content, if at all, would probably have been better off (haven’t been expecting new Berwyn content for a long time now anyway, and I can still appreciate him for what he was before this change, plus people who didn’t care for Berwyn before wouldn’t really care for this change too)
I hope we get another companion that fills his role
One will be coming very soon.
nice
Just for curiosities sake, will the new companion be male or female? Because we sadly have very little males to follow us around and help.
Female.
Will we at least be able to… Is there even a word for this..? Uh… Masculanize a female companion at some point? I find it crazy that we can turn two out of our three male companions female. Well, now it’s two, but can’t we at least turn Cait into a Catboy or something or the elf chick into an elf dude at some point.
No plans for that, sorry.
The unfortunate reality is that nobody on the staff really likes dudes, and supporting that level of TF-ing on a Companion is a massive headache.
So no new male companions? I know you say no one on the team likes males much, but clearly your audience does.
Understandable that his Companion’s content had to be cut since his creator left. My primary worry is that we lost the traditional mage character of the group and the unique skills he possess. Hopefully there will be a replacement for his role soon.
this is incredibly unfortunate since berwyn was my favorite character and i cant help but be sad for the children that my character had with him since he mentioned perhaps taking the children back to his parents’ home and mc coming with him after everything was resolved, i had been quite invested in berry since i always brought him as a mainstay for my party. losing all of that investment is quite upsetting and ruins the imagined story lines i had for my main character. of course those are in part a me problem, but still, its sad to see a companion who had been around for so long just suddenly be cut like that. i hope that at the very least in the future we may be able to have something of a relationship we can foster with berwyn on the side as an npc so that those things arent just completely lost or scrapped content.
i also do agree with some other peoples comments on how cutting one of the three male companions the player had as an option is a problem, i do love many of the companions that we have as party members, but it does lack balancing in terms of the kinds of party members we have. this only increases the disparity especially when brint has the option of completely becoming female, meaning you could only have a single male party member now in quin. i hope that whoever berwyn is replaced with is a male character (or even a nonbinary character perhaps) so at least we wont have effectively increased that disparity permanently.
same anon, having gone through and played the content through completely and picking alternate options for the scenes of berwyns quest i am left…just not feeling great about it. i am glad that we will be able to see berwyn after this, i admit i jumped the gun a little bit and assumed the worst (but i am still uncertain/worried about how significant our interactions with berwyn will end up being in the long run), although it still does in the end feel just not great. (there also appears to be a bit of an oversight with berwyn having left the frost hound where he will still come to my pc’s room and sleep with her at night even though hes moved out, though if he is taking the time to come and see her at night still, i at least appreciate his dedication)
(quest spoilers) i am not a fan of the way his relationship with matiha goes in the quest with her clear manipulation of berwyn and even if she wasnt herself at the time, berwyn still being more than willing to foster a sexual relationship with her feels very wrong. im not comfortable with it and when i tried to hear her out at the end and tried to talk to her to at least have the opportunity to speak with her about what happened and such only being able to agree to have sex with both of them or neither of them just really sucked. my character had a relationship with berwyn and would be comfortable continuing a relationship with just him, but i had no option to express that interest and only say that she wasnt interested in matiha, i would appreciate the option for that rather than only have both or neither. (i do understand though that if you dont talk to you you arent presented with that question, but i would still appreciate to have the option i suggested if you do take this route)
also in the scene where you can have berwyn change his appearance/presentation, i agree with the player’s thoughts that it was strange that berwyn himself didnt at least have the option to change to be more masculine. why give the option to change berwyn completely female but not the opposite? i dont recall berwyn ever expressing wanting to just be female before that point unless something had been added to earlier quests and dialogue that i just wouldnt have seen as i used my older save. it feels like its out of nowhere and only there to cater to people who only are interested in women and it just feels off to me. presenting it in a way where it is berwyn as he remembers himself and basing his form off of those memories makes it feel weirder too. i think if it was more so that berwyn was remembering who and what he always *wanted to be* if he had the power to be what he wanted or he was remembering the way he wanted to be rather than remembering himself as he was it would have read a bit better.
i do also understand the difficulties that came with having the original writer for berwyn leaving and that another writer having to take the reins is going to make things be different and not be the same because its not the same person writing the content, and i dont blame anyone for that, its unfortunate all around, but i just want to be honest with my opinion on the matter. i dont think there was a fully correct answer to this problem unfortunately, but i also just dont think that this was a good way to go about it either.
I understand the behind the reasons issues that led to this change, but I’m still really disappointed. Not just because Berwyn is my favourite companion (both as a character and as a party member), but because there were already so few male companions as it is. Plus despite what the post says, it feels like there’s even less content post-quest, doesn’t help that some old content is deleted.
I would much rather keep Berwyn as a companion without much new content (if at all) than what this quest does; I haven’t been expecting any new Berwyn content for ages now anyway, and never really thought that would change in the future, and most people who didn’t care for Berwyn before this change I don’t think would care now. I do appreciate the effort put into this quest and all, but I feel this is an unwarranted change that only serves to punish Berwyn fans like me without sufficient compensation, and does nothing to improve the game (besides clearing up the companion roster, but I’m not sure if just keeping him there without new content going forward was so bad to force this change).
Just very sad overall
sorta TLDR would much rather rollback to before this change and keep that as Berwyn’s ‘feature-complete’ stage
As it has been mentioned elsewhere, companions need to have active writers keeping their content up to date. If that can’t be done, they can’t stay companions.
This was kind of the best case scenario for Berwyn, unfortunately.
Okay so I’m not against not having him as a companion anymore, but why did you get rid of the anal scenes, and impregnation scenes. The Cait threesome makes senses but the other scenes dont.
it would be great if we can get a preg scen for Berwyn as a girl their is one with the mc as a mother if berwyn knocks you upp but not the other way around
i wonder did you guys add in the half lupine race that we can play as or no?
The game doesn’t really recognize “half” races, but you can very easily play one using lupine TFs and alchemy.
wished the game recognize that like in TITS. all well thats good enough
You guys do realize you can keep him male,
Going by the number of comments complaining about it I’m guessing at least a few people just looked at the picture but didn’t read the post itself.
I completely agree, some are whining for the sake of it. I doubt they even used him in the party.
I rotate mostly between Arona, Brienne, and Cait.
Some people are just complaining to complain because they dont like change.
Its not like the Patreon forced Frostwyrm Rework.
While it isn’t something that bothers me as much, you can’t make him more masculine. Can’t recall if he minded being girly before since it’s been a long time I tried to read that part.
Im pretty sure he was always a twink just not with a mega dick.
Nope. He even tells in this version that he was quite the lad before Matiha started adding transformatives into his tea.
oooooooh must have skimmed that part
Yeah and? He’s still no longer a party member and is being replaced with yet another female companion. If you like dudes there’s nothing to be happy about here
is the erythn companion story coming as well just wondering
Yes! I’m writing the epilogue and some new sex content for her now.
hehehe, “transitioning him”
Hey, the last update was so jarring that I literally made this account just to voice my thoughts. I literally have no idea why you made the decision to scrap Berwyn as a companion. It just doesn’t make sense to me. I understand sidelining the character so that writers like B aren’t burdened but that would just mean Berwyn would have no future content. I honestly don’t see why there would be any issue with keeping him in this state. The quest puts a nice bow on his storyline and you can still have a dedicated summoner black mage companion. As someone who has played CoC1 there were a lot of characters that were technically “unfinished” when the game actually reached the point that it had an ending to its story.
What this essentially feels like is if Anno was no suddenly no longer allowed to be a crewmate in TiTS. It feels illogical and frankly disappointing. Also, the *Spoilers* ability to reshape him freely after the dungeon just feels wrong (i guess)? Most other Mutable companions and npcs require you to search for components to change them so suddenly haing complete free reign just doesn’t feel rewarding at all. It’s like suddenly saying that Ryn can now be instantly masculized and now is called Ryne. This feels especially weird since there is zero chance for Ryn to be completely feminized despite already being and identifying as a female.
The short answer is “Just keep him around with no content” isn’t an option for companions and this quest would make it even HARDER to justify people writing him into future content (it’s way more complicated than you think it is).
Actually, wouldn’t it be possible to put Berwyn companionship under a toggle that has the disclaimer that Berwyn is no longer considered a main companion and will not receive content updates so future scenes will exclude him? Sort of like how holiday scenes and silly mode are toggles. I mean, you literally have all the content anyway.
I’ll just put in my 2 cents while we are at it. I’m pretty devastated at the loss of Berwyn. Was one of my favorites. Now looking at the companions and what I prefer, I am hoping this is an opportunity to add a handful more companions. For story and sexy reasons. At the very least add another 2 guys. One more masculine and another femboy of sorts. Though I wouldn’t object to two femboys.
And something I hope gets worked on soonish is more sets for companions. I love the idea of the phoenix, but as I pretty much exclusively play a charmer, having another in the party really isn’t helpful or wanted. Getting another set for her to make her into, well anything other than a charmer, would be very welcome.
There will be one more companion and she’s a lady (with scenes that let her be a dude temporarily).
More sets for everyone in the future, though.
I thought it was just with temporary cock?
Vivianne will have content (though potentially not when she is first added) where she can transform into a man (either via alchemy or through… other means) for some sex scenes.
Hey so I sent Matiha to Evergreen, is there any scenes involving that or no? Cause it doesn’t look like she’s there at all.
I don’t think she makes it there
It’s currently bugged. If you send her to evergreen it treats it the same as if she moved in with Berwyn.
That’s really a shame. I have the obvious good ending choice picked in my main save with reuniting Berwyn and Matiha, but I wanted to see the Evergreen choice in another save because I really like her content. Hope they’re able to fix this big bug soon, though no rush since the team already has enough on their plate.
I am happy you guys decided instead of entirely scraping berry and putting him in the dumpster and gave him some closing content. Sucks that he is not a companion, but what can you do when his writer leaves when coc2 is not done yet.
Good work B!
Now I am excited to see Etheryn’s dungion and get to punch her stupid sister in the face for being really bad to Etheryn.
can berwyn still bad-end you or is that gone?
If you do the quest Bad end is just gone.
It just feels so disappointing how there haven’t really been any new meaningful male characters added in quite a while, and yet another main male character is going the route of “make him female.” One of the early things I remember being so grateful to in this game was that it seemed to give more care and interest to its male characters compared to other similar games, but it really doesn’t seem that way anymore.
Yeah same. When this game was first introduced and I saw the love and care put into Brint, I was totally ecstatic! It’s extremely disappointing and it doesn’t seem to be getting better. This send off feels lackluster at best considering we lose content with the guy… and we’re going to have that slot replaced with yet another woman. At this point I’m just waiting for Brint’s content to be completely and totally overshadowed by Brienne… Quin will probably get the same treatment. Sad day.
Yeah I’m deeply worried for Quin now. I hope nothing happens to him.
1. You’re allowed to leave Berry exactly as he is now. You don’t have to feminize him at all.
2. Brint/Brienne tend to be kept pretty equal in content, with the only notable exception being Rina having an exclusive route with FemChamp and Brienne.
3. Quin will never be feminized.
Berwyn was a unique situation and this is just about the best way it could have been handled since the alternative was a complete removal.
I’m not sure why you felt the need to tell us that we don’t have to feminized him. I mean duh, yeah we know. That wasn’t the problem. The problem is that the slider just went from twink to female with no choice to make him more masculine. It’s just meh and kind of feels wrong for his character considering his feminization was forced. It would have been nice to have an option to see former Berry.
And Brienne already had a piece of exclusive content? tThat’s good to know. Sure it’s just one piece now but now knowing that the crew isn’t interested in dudes makes me think the gap will become wider with time. It wouldn’t surprise me. Especially when it’s also admitted that there is no current interest to get a member that would like to make that sort of content.
And how would you know that Quin wouldn’t be feminized? And if he doesn’t will there be any interest in competently expanding him cause once again, crew ain’t into dudes.
I’d love to be proven wrong but the crew is allowed to take this game in any direction they want. It’s their game after all. Just can’t help but be disappointed.
I know Quin will never be feminized because his writer gets actively upset at the mere suggestion.
Bri’s writer has no issue with writing content for men (he did write Brint after all, along with a couple others). When they say the writers are mostly not interested in men, they do mean MOSTLY not ENTIRELY.
And I mentioned that you don’t have to feminize Berry because people keep saying they “lost” a male character and they hate how you can’t keep him as he is when you absolutely can. You can’t make him more masculine though, that is true (and I wouldn’t suggest it, writing what content Berry does have now was a nightmare and I wouldn’t try to add more to B’s plate in that regard).
I don’t usually do this because it’s not really how I like to deal with it, but I’ll be frank: This post and the content in question just left me with kind of a depressed funk ever since I read/played it. I really can’t say why, Berry’s not my favorite character overall but I really did like him, and he felt significantly more useful post combat rework. I just thought he might need some tuning on his abilities. So to go from that to nothing just feels… sour.
And to be doubly frank, the quest didn’t really impress me either, and the fact that the reward is a hat and requiring me to camp to see Berwyn just feels like a slap in the face. I can tell a lot of thought and effort went into it, I can appreciate that- I did like the whole shifting dungeon layout, the bits of lore talk were fun.
But the bosses were lackluster, I don’t much care for the new character art over the old, Maitha and her scenes were just meh (especially her going from zero to “I’m madly in love with you Champion”), and the whole messing with Berwyn’s body (part of the stated reason for him being axed) just feels excessive. And not in a “it brings out a lot of options” sort of way- if it was a choice between that or him being easier to write for as he is, I’d take the latter any day.
You could say I could just not do the quest, and you’d be right- that does fix at least some of the problems, but in no world is “just don’t do it” a palatable answer when the content in question was meant to be a big standout moment for the character. This update for Berwyn feels, charitably, like a net neutral for me. Uncharitably, a pretty big negative in a way that just makes me unenthusiastic about anything upcoming.
And no, my gameplay gripes aren’t filled by his place being kind-of-sort-of taken by yet another big tiddy witch lady. Viv was fine as a one off, but her being a companion just does nothing for me.
I don’t even know where I’m going with this, other than I do want to end it by saying this is all my perspective, and this isn’t a big “grr revert this now grr” post. Y’all can do what you want to your game, I can’t and won’t even try to stop you. I can however say that an update to my favorite porn game has left me pretty majorly disappointed in a way it never has before and I’m honestly just kind of sad about it. I hate to emotion dump like the emotions of a random internet anon mean anything to anyone else, but that’s my honest takeaway- I’m sad and I’m probably not gonna touch it again until the thought of it doesn’t feel quite so bitter.
idk, I’m just a nobody screaming into the abyss of a comments section- not even a backer. Feel free to ignore.
It’s very disheartening to have him just ripped away. I can’t bring myself to feel excitement towards any new updates right now either.
“and the whole messing with Berwyn’s body (part of the stated reason for him being axed)”
No, him being axed is why that content is there. If the transformation section was removed, Berwyn still wouldn’t be a companion anymore. With nobody able to take him on, he wasn’t going to get new content which is a no go for companions in the game.
Yeah instead we’ll get YET ANOTHER character with huge tits. Because, you know, that’s what all women have unless they’re straight up lolis.
Yeah I honestly kinda get this. Viv just…Idk there isn’t much draw to her, and Berwyn felt near as Iconic to the game as Cait. This update doesn’t feel like it adds cause to me it honestly just feels like content was taken out of the game. I have done it a couple times now, tried diff approaches and the whole thing feels hollow.
And what sucks is even though it is their game, it feels like when criticism happens it just gets well, ignored.
Like it feels like whenever there is a forum talk about a Iconic species they decided will never be playable, or a story option a lot of folks want, or a direction they are not enjoying. It honestly just feels like it is being ignored and there is a lack of care.
For instance it sucks that a lot of the time in my experience, it doesn’t feel like you can truly be a corrupt PC in this game, cause many npcs and companions you outright cannot corrupt at all, and for some if you corrupt them they just end up with way less content to the point it feels like a placeholder. It sometimes makes this feel to me like it isn’t a corruption of champions game but something else completely.
And this update is just honestly real depressing cause one of the more interesting companions is just getting taken away and thrown into the Bin. Cause I honestly have a bad feel that after this Berwyn will get little to no content and will just be like, this little side character you can do little to nothing with. And I just can’t feel any interest in Viv even though I do like busty gal chars, nothing about her stands out in a drawing in way.
I hate to be negative about this but this update makes me feel really negative about the game and made me kinda not sure I want to do my current run through of it.
Well this is garbage, I loved the old Berry better than this hot mess. Sorry B, love your work, but this ain’t it.
@Savin So if as you said, the staff just aren’t interested in writing males, then would it be possible to look for at least one new staff member that does? I mean it seems like you have a fair amount of players who want that content and are paying each month. I’m barely into dudes my self but this just doesn’t seem right.
Not at this time.
This honestly makes it seem like purposely waited this this late to be after the cutoff for companions to write out and replace Berwyn this way. :\
I just wish after the quest they were still in the Frosthound, having to go to a camp to see one of my favorite NPCs is a bit tiresome :/
Also losing the bad ending and cait threesomes makes it feel like there is just less content for Berwyn
There is more post-quest Berry content coming, including restoration of his pre-quest scenes where possible.
We’ll also be making it so you can visit the tower from the Ways Between directly.
Will some of the restoration include his bad end and breeding stuff and if possible making them available for the female version of him as well?
We’ll see!
Boy, I sure hope so. This content was an amazing, if slightly bittersweet addition, but having those would just be having our cake and eating it too. We can hope!
Also is the decision on what to do with Matiha going to be permanent or will there be an option later? Mostly asking because sending her to the wayfort for a bit so they can both cool off seems like the best idea to me.
It is a one-time choice.
It seems that once you complete the quest the Breed option with Berwyn is gone I hope it gets put back in I don’t see any story reasons it wouldn’t be available anymore I can understand the bad end not making sense anymore but breeding should still be available
I don’t know if it’s a bug or something but i cant seem to see icons in the game. Like the icons for Hawkthorne shops, chapel, frosthound and in other places where they are supposed to be.
I don’t know if this a bug or not or if I got a random enchantment placed on me and didn’t know but every time I crit in battle now my chest grows bigger anyone know what’s up with that?
Read the descriptions of the rings you’re using…
Thank you for that didn’t even know my rings were switched on me.
Boy howdy, this sure was a thing. Loved the content, it was absolutely bangin’. And as much as it is unfortunate to lose a companion, I truthfully didn’t use Berwyn that much anyways, being the mage of the party myself. Glad to see his content preserved regardless.
Though I have to ask, the part of the quest where Berwyn is reconstructing himself after the final battle reminded me an awful lot of the opening of My Very Own Lith. Was this intentional, and has the team played that game at all? Or is it just a coincidence that I’m picking needlessly at?
While I look forward to seeing the ending of the quest, I do feel bad for people who either had him as a favorite companion or simply prefer male companions. Hope there’s a way (and possibility) to throw them a bone in the future.
Better be soon as well. Literally one of only two companions I use so I’m down a party member until they add a new femboy mage companion
Understandable the whole losing Berwyn as a companion, and the stuff B has written is really good and honestly a well done end for the character’s arc, whilst leaving him/her open for more stuff in the future. I am one of the people who are sad to see us lose a male companion, leaving us with just Brint and Quin. Sadly it seems Quin is the only true male companion, and while I know that not a lot of writers like males, I do hope he stays male at least since that is part of what makes him unique.
Quin in general has been suffering a good bit thanks to the recent changes, he was really powerful in battle before with his lust attacks, but maybe it’s just me, but his whole set up doesn’t feel as good anymore. It’s not a big deal or anything, it just feels weird to have a lust based character when it feels like lust doesn’t even matter anymore. Quin also doesn’t have any alternate sets like the other characters, which is pretty sad considering how he was such an early companion.
Nevertheless, I’m just grateful he’s in the game at all and that Berwyn wasn’t just abandoned without warning. Can’t wait to see the next content update! You guys are doing awesome!
Quin actively got better and easier to use after the changes, but if his current kit isn’t to your tastes he has a new set coming… soonish. A lot of combat related content (like two of Atugia’s new sets) are being held back by combant changes at the moment.
Ah I see, I remember hearing that Quin was eventually getting a set. It just seems weird he doesn’t have as much content and kits as Cait and Brint, despite being nearly as old of a companion as them. Still, I’m looking forward to the future and can’t wait to see what comes next!
I am personally quite disappointed to see Berwyn go and being replaced with another female companion.
However I would like to ask one question about the new companion, is there any plans on making her flat-chested, as so far there are not many NPCs that fill this niche and none of the companions do either; Kiyoko may be smaller in her first form but that quickly changes and while the appearance text implies a small chest, the portrait shows anything but.
Oof. Berwyn never left my party, personally, since I liked him so much, so this is definitely a pretty big blow to my continued interest in the game…and I don’t think I’ll be playing this update any time soon.
I do admittedly find it strange that Berwyn, already the victim of involuntary feminization at his mentor’s hands, would agree to be changed even more to suit the player’s wants, especially without the context of having fought together as comrades, but perhaps the story does a better job of having that make sense in context…I’m not in a hurry to find out, though.
But, well. I understand you felt like this was the better option given the situation. And that you all have your own tastes and interests and that it’s not fair to expect you to try and produce content that meets everyone’s preferences. It does make me feel rather excluded, especially hearing that there’s only going to be one more companion – and a female one at that – but I’m just one person, and I imagine the majority of players – and writers, for that matter – are all too happy to have most of the companions be female.
For now, I guess I’ll just keep the older version around…
For me he was the only male character I liked/kept in my party so I kind of get the felling.
“but perhaps the story does a better job of having that make sense in context…I’m not in a hurry to find out, though.”
You probably should find out then, because you’re completely wrong about said context. Hint: It’s not presented as the PC’s choice.
I have played it, and honestly in context it still feels wrong. Unless they overhauled a bunch of the conversations of Berwyn pre-dungeon it still seems off that he would just remake himself into a feminized form. He was male, he identified as male, and he didn’t want the feminization that had been done to him. Brint to Brienne is a similar case except the cursed armor also adjusted thoughts partially. Berwyn, on the other hand, was given the chance to remake himself however he wanted. Even if it is framed as Berwyn’s choice in game, it is still the player deciding it in the end. If Berwyn had remained a companion I could see how interactions over the travels might make him question his identity and the outcome of the dungeon would be something that relied on past actions. For example, if he was more submissive he might end up with a smaller penis. But he isn’t a companion and it isn’t based on past interactions so it is the player, not the player character mind you, making the choice in Berwyn’s place.
I see…so the context will have to do even more heavy lifting to have it feel convincing for that to be a choice Berwyn would potentially make. Ah, well. Certainly not a fan, but it’s absolutely their game, not mine.
I adore Mathia and Wynne, this is great. ^^ So was the Quest.
Is the Alternate way to get Thicc Cait in the game yet? 🙁 I’d rather Not gobble a billion dicks.
Not yet, but it is coming — I’ve been distracted from Khor’minos by writing Ryn for a while.
Holy christ, this fucking blows. Berywn was one of three companions I ever used (Cait for heals) I don’t like futanari that much and Berywn and Brint are chads who take my npc to poundtown. There’s not even an option to make him more masculine, from what I see, just to further degenerate him? There’s already not enough male NPCs for female champions and this just makes it worse.
Yo Savin, if the rumors are true and the plan is to put Viviane in as the new party black mage, could you instead put Meira the tanuki in instead.
Reasons to put Meira in:
Spunky personality
PC altering magic
Tanuki children
Interactions between her and kiyoko since they are a kitsune and a tanuki
Reasons not to put Viv in as a companion:
Feels like she only has one thing going for her
Is just a plain vanilla human
Doesn’t really bring anything to the table that would make her a good replacement for Berwyn.
Like, think about it. Wouldn’t a tanuki girl be a better choice than an ara ara, tig ol biddies, witch.
Honestly a lot of characters could fill this gap better than Viviane. She’s a service provider, so why would she become a companion?
Because the person who wrote her wanted her to be a companion and established themselves as a writer in the community. They then put in the substantial amount of work for a companion and agreed to continue support for said companion over the years. All of this prior to the cut off date for companions.
Honestly, and I do man this with no sarcasm or irony, good for them. I understand how hard it is to create something. But conceptually my points still stand. For a long time now I thought Meira would be a companion mostly because it made thematic (is that the right word for it?) sense. She could serve as a foil to Kiyoko and could be used to expand tanuki content. When talking about the mythology, there is almost always a pairing of of a tanuki and a kitsune as rival tricksters. In this game however, the amount of representation is heavily skewed towards the kitsune side of things and it has honestly kind of bothered me for a while. The issue I have with Viv is that, personally, she is at the fringe of my strike zone and I don’t see what she brings to the table. Who knows, maybe when a completed companion is released I’ll change my thoughts on this but until then I just don’t see the potential. Also, since it is a replacement for Berwyn’s companion slot a non-human just seems like a better choice. Once again, no offence to Viv’s creator, I’m sure they are passionate about this and have ideas on what to do.
I kind of wish to have Berwyn/Wynne as a companion even more, after this quest. Sad to see him go.. but thanks for the content B. You did him, or her in my case, justice.
Any update on the Brint/Arona scene??
Have to say this is kinda really bittersweet. I hope we get plenty to do with Berwyn as time goes on and he doesn’t just kinda get put away after this. Berwyn was one of my fave companions and always had a slot on the team.
Sorry I know it isn’t likely what folks like to hear but this does kinda hit my interest a bit rough since it feels like a lot of what Interests me in CoC type stuff either gets scrapped or declared as something that will not be bothered with. It is starting to really hurt how often I play.
I don’t think the writing is bad at all, its just a matter of it feels like there is less freedom in what the player can be, what they can do, and now who they can bring with them and it is getting tough.
Let me preface this by saying I completely understand why this decision was made and that this is a unique circumstance, even though I have mixed feelings about it. My issue comes from the fact that we barely have any male content compared to everything else. While Berwyn was not my favourite male companion it does still make me worry a bit. My party always contains Brint and Quin and this makes me worry about them especially because you can already turn Brint into a female and Quin feels like he’s not had much love in a long while. They’re my favourite companions because I’m just not usually very interested in cis women, tldr I mostly like men and am only really into women if they have dicks. Brint is absolutely my favourite companion because he’s basically the only male character you can get into a real relationship with, and he ticks all the right boxes if you like big sweet buff guys. I really hope male content doesn’t get further removed – there’s significantly less male NPCs compared to female/herm/dickgirl as well. It also felt strange that there was no way to make Berwyn more masculine, only more feminine, especially considering he had stated before that he was originally feminised against his will.
At the end of the day it’s your game and you are 100% free to do whatever you want with it and lead it in whatever direction you choose. I’m not trying to claim otherwise or trying to force you to make a game you don’t want to make. I just feel that even though your staff doesn’t like dudes, it would be nice to consider the fact that part of your audience does if any huge changes are made to the only other male companions in future. I agree its too far in to start adding any more companions than the one you are already planning to, and that’s why I’d hate to lose the only male ones we do have. Maybe more male content could be added through NPCs eventually or something. But as I said before, at the end of the day it’s your game and you have every right to add or remove whatever you want from it.
Community submissions are always open, you’re more than welcome to add to the content for male NPCs (or add your own) if you so wish. But the devs are gonna write what they’re interested in and there aren’t many of them who have much interest in men, so content for them will probably continue to be sparse.
That’s why submissions being open is cool, people can write what they want to see in the game and submit it.
Also as a note, men outnumber women with penises by a decent margin, both in general and specifically sexable ones. Granted, some of those ladies have a LOT more content than some of the guys, but it’s not nearly as uneven as people like to pretend it is.
Community submissions are open… But also will see you essentially doing it for exposure or for the love of the game. And yeah, it’s pretty uneven.
Can we please, PLEASE, get some female to male transformations for some of the other companions? The male content in this game is severely lacking, to be honest, when compared to the female and futa content. Now with one of the few male companions being removed, cant we at least get some of the females or futas in our party turned into males for the players who ARE NOT attracted to either females or futas, but just tolerate that content to access the little male content there is? I know I am part of the minority here, but it just sucks that we keep getting constant female content, and only a trickle of new male content, and rarely. If the team loves transforming gender roles so much, then how about some fair and equal treatment and let us turn some of the girls into dudes as well? /endrant
So you’re not gonna get FtM transformations for any of the companions (they don’t want to write it and it would mostly be out of character), nor are you likely to be able to convince any of the current writers to transform many of the femme characters to be more masc (little interest from them there too).
You can, however, attempt to write it yourself and submit it. Or write your own masc NPCs. Or scenes for current ones (highly recommended). A lot of people do that when they notice a lack of content they’re interested in in the game.
But it’s not out of character for Berwyn to suddenly be all-in on suddenly being a chick. Ok.
So what about those of us who prefer him as a companion? Was my main companion with Quinn as my second.
So it seems only those that like females and futas can make content for these games. Need more femboys and males in the spotlight. Guess the only way the formula will change is if the money does the talking…
That sounds a bit extreeme…
It was a writer that already had a character in the game and they took up a bigger position and were given the offer
Google docs is free, get to work. Submissions are open and I’m sure they’d be more than happy to take a look if you wanna write more men into the game.
I will point out you will get no compensation, just tons of work for little pay-off except to read your own porn.
Hey Willow, the person before me makes a good point. There is nothing more unsatisfying than trying to create porn for yourself to read. So telling people to make their own content is, in fact, not a solution to the problem here.
Soooo let me get this straight (ha). You remove one of the THREE out of ten male companions… And are going to replace him with a female, and she will be the LAST companion. So those of us who like dick get fucked over in the end if it’s not futa? Just gonna say, that doesn’t sit right with me. While it’s your game, I’m already dealing with less PC pregnancies. It’s basically becoming a Straight Boy’s Paradise with big tits literally everywhere, and most of the came seemingly coded for “have a dick” to the point that not having one was such an afterthought it softlocked the game. Disappointing, to say the least. :/
You can write more men into the game if you want, submissions are always open.
Generally speaking, the writers write what they’re interested in and not very many of the main writers for the game are that interested in men (they are primarily straight men and lesbian women, after all) which is why community submissions are very welcome for content the rest of the writers aren’t super interested in writing.
People are allowed to complain and have problems with this. You don’t have to reply to literally everyone lowkey telling them to shut up and deal with it.
I’m not telling them to “shut up and deal with it”.
I’m telling them to solve their own problems. They’re totally capable of fixing their perceived issues instead of talking about how the devs are fucking them over by “taking away” the type of content they like.
But yeah, they’re allowed to keep uselessly complaining if they want. I’m allowed to post comments too. That’s kind of how this works.
I mean, there’s a reason I stopped paying because of this update, but hey, that clearly means nothing.
I can, but they’ll never be Companions. You don’t see the problem with 90% of companions being Big Titty Lady material (and then one rabbit guy and .5 with Brint because he can also become Big Titty Lady). I cannot make a Companion. They aren’t going to make anymore. Community submissions won’t change that there will be 8/10 (and later 9/10) Big Titty Girlfriends if you choose Brienne over Brint (and I don’t like beefcake men), and choose Busty options for Ryn. Even then, with Viv, that’ll be… 7/10 options are Big Titty Waifu. And it’s FRUSTRATING.
I kind of brute forced the dungeon a bit, just kept on trying every combination of moves until I got to the boss. My main disappointment about it was that it was too easy. I don’t really know what level the dungeon was made for and I’ve gotten all the unique equipment that I can. would have been nice with a bit of extra challenge. I have been looking forward to seeing content with Matiha since She and Berwynn were introduced to the game.
Yeah, I’m probably done with the game. I’ve been finding myself with less and less enjoyment out of it as time has passed, and the rather blunt statement above from one of the writers that the staff just isn’t into dudes finally explained to me why. When I first found the fenoxo games, I’d been really happy to find porn games willing to go a kind of dark and have male content. I don’t know if that was just my perception or if turn over has resulted in the games really truly going in a different direction from the past.
Either way, this is a good time to part. Good luck with your future endeavors.
This game is getting pretty hard to support with all of the lopsidedness in which characters and paths are receiving changes. I can understand the justifiable reason for not wanting to deal with Berwyn as a companion anymore but there is still a sizable portion of the audience who wants that type of content that is just being screwed. You can’t change the preferences of the people who are making this game who just don’t like men but the game still needs something from that angle. Berwyn has been effectively removed, Brint is split in two, and Quinn is nearly rotting to the same extent Berwyn is, I wouldn’t even be surprised if Quinn’s gender was changed for no reason. Even from a story perspective Berwyn being more feminized feels pretty awful considering how his original changes were against his will. It doesn’t really make sense that he would want changes that would make him more fem instead of masc.
I was interested in this game because I thought it would be different from the rest of the thousands of other nsfw games and actually have m/m content or even an equally fleshed out female role. But so many of the scenes require you having a dick and more and more of the male options are being forgotten or sidelined. Even though you say you are replacing him with somebody to fill his niche Berwyn was more than just a mage, it was a fem male companion. There is just a huge blind spot in content with this change; a whole removal of a character, and from what I can read of the devs comments it doesn’t seem like this trend is going to get any better. The game seems like it is actively trying to get worse by removing instead of adding.
I’ve honestly been going away from the game for a while as it seems that the content has been going slow compared to how it started. Just not enough to really keep me here. I do redownload it every couple months to try out the couple of hours of new content, but that’s sadly all there usually is. As for others comments about changing Berwyn, I personally like this change as my companions are usually female/futa, but I can understand the point of views of those who don’t like it. I sadly see a lot of people quitting because of this update.
Suck ass that our already limited male roster is even smaller. Replacing one of our few dude companions with yet another girl kinda sucks especially when he was the one I used the most. Are there any plans to make another one?
Considering they recently stated Viviane would be the last companion, I don’t think so.
no more Berwyn for new files and new players nnnnoooooooooooo
:c